CUSeeMe log: Russian Forum -- Montreal -- November 28, 1998 -- St. Petersburg

LADY OF THE HOUSE (Montréal): Studio XX, Catherine, Katherine, Sheila and Sheryl CYBERFEMIN CLUB (St Petersburg): Alla and Irina Start time in Montreal: 12:30 pm Start in St. Petersburg: 8:30 pm Pre-forum discussion (encountering some technical complications ... sorting them out ) LADY OF THE HOUSE: also, we can only run one computer, as our ISDN line can't do cuseeme through a proxy server network. so we took the rest of our computers off the internet connection. CYBERFEMIN CLUB: with isdn u could run 1/2 of computer LADY OF THE HOUSE: also, we cannot hear you though the speakers are on CYBERFEMIN CLUB: are u from xx studio? LADY OF THE HOUSE: yes, my name is catherine mcgovern and i am the organizer of this festival and the programming coordinator of the studio LADY OF THE HOUSE: we will probably officially start the conference soon remember that the subject is: to compare the expectations about the Information Superhighway in the East and in the West, maybe they are the same, maybe completely different LADY OF THE HOUSE: do you see us? LADY OF THE HOUSE: we see you perfectly CYBERFEMIN CLUB: we are hungry for more sensor information, not only text CYBERFEMIN CLUB: wanna picture at least LADY OF THE HOUSE: so you do not see us? LADY OF THE HOUSE: catherine, here again. i will try to find the tcd. maybe that will help LADY OF THE HOUSE: would it be better in black and white CYBERFEMIN CLUB: we hardly trying to find jpeg ...difficult try blackw LADY OF THE HOUSE: ok. i will try black and white LADY OF THE HOUSE: so we are black and white now. any better? LADY OF THE HOUSE: you are smoking a cigarette and i am eating a cookie... maybe we should talk about the Internet??? (In Montreal, Katherine Liberovskaya explains the purpose of the forum to the members of the public in attendance). CYBERFEMIN CLUB: we have got u, but few parts lip only LADY OF THE HOUSE: katya is introducing us and you. now to the people here with us CYBERFEMIN CLUB: u really want internet super ... instead of trying to find better reflector? LADY OF THE HOUSE: do you know one which would give a better result? would it be quick? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: few words about moscow and olga? LADY OF THE HOUSE: moscow will not be with us today, Olga's grandmother died and she is at her funeral. So it's just us and you. CYBERFEMIN CLUB: reflector we tested before 198.209.253.70 go now? LADY OF THE HOUSE: hello my beauties it is i the Mystress Cybernoski and my time in this level of reality is limited. So I must ask you my dears how is it Made in Cyberspace for you, how is your access, how do we work together to make work CYBERFEMIN CLUB: your picture is very big, 1\2 of screen try apr.5x6 sm LADY OF THE HOUSE: good idea i will change the size of our window. LADY OF THE HOUSE: i must disconnect to change the window... one minute Beginning of the Forum LADY OF THE HOUSE: is that better ...? sheils is kiising you good bye LADY OF THE HOUSE: could you present your participants to us? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: we kiss sheila and katya CYBERFEMIN CLUB: we see u well katya u are nice. LADY OF THE HOUSE: sheryl and catherine are wondering why you don't kiss them too? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: we kiss many to many it is a crowd here LADY OF THE HOUSE: who is there? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: our address http://www.cl.spb.ru/~tac LADY OF THE HOUSE: we are going to look at some of the russian web art projects that katya found. later. for now. we want to talk about what the internet means for you there? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: fabric of found clothers http:// www.dux.ru/guest/fno if somebody wants visuals LADY OF THE HOUSE: yes. i really like that project about the found cloths. katya will show it to the others after. we also are looking at your web site with the hottentot venus image. LADY OF THE HOUSE: can you seen your own web site through our camera? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: internet means everdays plugins into life with CYBERFEMIN CLUB: resturcturalisation of using database CYBERFEMIN CLUB: we see a big screen LADY OF THE HOUSE: sheryl hamilton is asking: do you see it as a source of information? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: u mean information as a format for cognitive and sensual actions LADY OF THE HOUSE: sheryl: umm. describe in more detail what you mean by sensual actions. LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: this is a perfect example of how non-linear narrative can be on the Internet CYBERFEMIN CLUB: internet provides fragmented destructuralised information, which could be used for individual expression LADY OF THE HOUSE: sheryl (the devil's advocate): true, but how is it sensual? LADY OF THE HOUSE: katya says hello to Varvara CYBERFEMIN CLUB: sensual at least as body is incorporated in any (poetic, artistic) expression LADY OF THE HOUSE: katya: is it writing(like e-mail) that you find to be a poetic artistic experience? or what part of the experience? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: my text includes body experience and written for that. it also includes female body texts from internet. Internet is an important canal for the topic texts. LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: do you think, on the subject of sensual and body, that your gender matters at all in cyberspace? do you ever pretend to be what you are not? LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: can you please point your camera down so we can better see your faces. what is that person doing on the table? is _that_ a sensual body experience? LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: what do you mean by female body texts? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: i try to find what i am, to extend my text to what i could get from my existenz. i have been a nomad and multi free gender for life before. I just found female body in myself and very intrigued don't want anything else. LADY OF THE HOUSE: katya: do you think that text can be specifically female or feminine? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: sorry we were not able to ftp our zine to the site, promise to do it soon LADY OF THE HOUSE: o.k. thanks LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: i wonder if, given what you have written, you are interested in live over the Internet performance? i could see your thoughts making sense in that context LADY OF THE HOUSE: sheryl hamilton wants to know if by text you mean only words or active writing or do you also mean everything visual? tina: hello, i just want to know if i can get some text to you all cuz i am not hearing a thing! LADY OF THE HOUSE: hi tina. tina is one of the artists in the festival and she just joined us from the US. LADY OF THE HOUSE: tina it would be great to see you too CYBERFEMIN CLUB: text as hypertext, because u can not avoid linx, there is not style divisions text academic or chat LADY OF THE HOUSE: we keep asking you questions. Do you want to ask us any questions? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: Dima: Yes, of course. But every word is a knowledge and the sight. Traditionally we use the sights, but onetime shot opening the knowlidge. LADY OF THE HOUSE: our public is wondering what the situation is in Russia for access to the Internet, in general for regular people and also for you CYBERFEMIN CLUB: You now the situation in Russia is not so terrible as you see from Canada. LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: actually, i am very impressed with how things are coming through from russia. i was afraid it would be very difficult. LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: in russia, do you pay for every minute you are on-line? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: The access is only a problem of money. If you have a computer in your home and have a possibility to pay some money to a provider -- o.k. not problem LADY OF THE HOUSE: katka: do you use the same kind of line for the phone and for the internet LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: the thing that i am interested in about working on the internet as an artist, is putting together images and text (like what alla was saying about hypertext) in a complex way that doesn't work except on the net. that is the relationship between them is more complex and multilayered. CYBERFEMIN CLUB: We have in this spase two line? but both are in action now because we use two comp. for connection CYBERFEMIN CLUB: CYBERFEMIN CLUB: LADY OF THE HOUSE: how about if you have a computer at home and want to be on the Internet, do you have to get a new special line or can you just use the regular phone line? LADY OF THE HOUSE: tina, are you still there? do you have a visual input? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: We can use our regular phone line that was made in last century, by the way LADY OF THE HOUSE: what happened to alla and irina? Tina: hi ... i'm still here. no video-in, like i said i'm a newbie at the cu-see me app, but am trying to catch up with the discussion threads CYBERFEMIN CLUB: Girrls we are here, and this women without hairs is me, irina. LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: tina, glad you are there, even without your picture ... LADY OF THE HOUSE: !! LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: irina are you an artist? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: Probably LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: what sort of work do you do? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: social activity LADY OF THE HOUSE: can you explain? LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: by the way, we are listening to russin opera CYBERFEMIN CLUB: Katya Liberovskaya, do you recognize me? It's irina aktuganova! LADY OF THE HOUSE: sheryl wonders if you are maybe listening to celine dion? she is a quebec singer LADY OF THE HOUSE: Katya: of course irina now i recognize you, but because your camera is directed on the top of your heads for some time i thought you were somebody else CYBERFEMIN CLUB: how could we hear him, if you have no microphones in canada LADY OF THE HOUSE: sheryl hamilton is asking if by social activity you mean social activism irina? like political action? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: In the beginning of our chat alla forgot to introduce you the male part of our cyberfemin community: i mean Sergei, Dima, sasha and sasha. CYBERFEMIN CLUB: CYBERFEMIN CLUB: we can see almost all of you Hi LADY OF THE HOUSE: actually there are lots and lots of microphones in canada but we thought that for today the camera's microphone would be fine, but it does not work and nobody came with a microphone today. LADY OF THE HOUSE: there is also more and more people here and we have been trying to let you see CYBERFEMIN CLUB: Katya we are glad to see you again LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: we also have a male part of our club. though we make them stay in the background out of the picture! CYBERFEMIN CLUB: Sergei sais that the colour of your lips is fine as usual LADY OF THE HOUSE: hey. i thought we were in black and white! LADY OF THE HOUSE: katya is blushing Tina: hahaha! good 4 u cat! LADY OF THE HOUSE: katya wonders if you are having a party now. or should we talk about art! and serious things (lost the connection at this point -- tried to reestablish it) LADY OF THE HOUSE: hey what are you? LADY OF THE HOUSE: hey!! what are you doing on this different reflector site??? trying to run away? LADY OF THE HOUSE: we are here now, in montreal. can you receive this? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: hi again LADY OF THE HOUSE: are we not clever for finding you?! CYBERFEMIN CLUB: let's try to test our sound LADY OF THE HOUSE: ok, speakers ready LADY OF THE HOUSE: are you talking? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: can you listen me? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: Yes I try LADY OF THE HOUSE: Aglika: Zdrastvyuite vy nichevo ne sprachivayte tina: i just heard a voice LADY OF THE HOUSE: we can't hear you even if our speakers are on LADY OF THE HOUSE: but tina in the US who can't see you seems to hear you. CYBERFEMIN CLUB: Tina, what voice did you listen? LADY OF THE HOUSE: do you know if we should configure something special in the software for the sound cyberfemin? LADY OF THE HOUSE: sheryl hamilton is asking if you have looked at the festival on-line exhibition and if you did which is your favourite web-art project? tina: i like the real audio piece, but i haven't had time to look at more work, yet. LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: tina, do you speak french? LADY OF THE HOUSE: we are starting to party here tina: not very well, but i will be studying again this spring. but my reading skills are improving due to my net activities LADY OF THE HOUSE: do you have any answers about the sound? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: It was the best evening in our cyberlife. What do you think about our next meeting on the net? LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: tina, i'm glad to hear that because there is a news paper review in french that I will send you ... LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: its been great, are you tired? LADY OF THE HOUSE: because we can still go on tina: cool! LADY OF THE HOUSE: cat: next time i hope that moscow will be there too. also some people in vancouver, on the west coast of canada were going to join us, but it was too early in the morning!! LADY OF THE HOUSE: we should do this again LADY OF THE HOUSE: in 1999, that's soon CYBERFEMIN CLUB: No, we are not tired but our subway is almost closed. tina: yes! LADY OF THE HOUSE: that we understand!! has it snowed there much already? CYBERFEMIN CLUB: Good night, good afternoon, girls and boys. see you in 1999 later cyberaligators! LADY OF THE HOUSE: sheryl hamilton says that that was a very canadian question (about the snow) LADY OF THE HOUSE: in a while, cyber crocodile! CYBERFEMIN CLUB: No, but very frosty. LADY OF THE HOUSE: Na zdarovye! tina: it has been unusually warm in nyc this fall. CYBERFEMIN CLUB: love, kiss, kiss, kiss LADY OF THE HOUSE: lucky new york LADY OF THE HOUSE: xxx LADY OF THE HOUSE: bye tina, thanks for joining us!

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CYBERFEMIN CLUB: fabric of found clothers http:// www.dux.ru/guest/fno

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